He married Elizabeth Cranham about 1815 and they had two sons, Joseph Jr. born about 1815/16 and John, born about 1816/17. The family history stated the confectioner’s shop was opened in 1828 at 269 Regent St. Joseph supposedly died during an Cholera outbreak in 1831/32. About 1833 Elizabeth moved around the corner to 22, Gt. Castle Street where she started a dressmaking business with her widowed sister, Mrs. Ann Holman. The family still owned and operated the Regent St. business until 1840, although no longer living on the premises. Later another widowed sister, Mrs. Maria Santi went to live with Elizabeth and Ann.
Clear as mud right? Wrong. I can find no references to the name in Songi in Italy. Some refer to a “Songia” family that lived down the mountain from Lake Como, so possibly. The Songi name is prominent in France (and came to America in Louisiana as Songy) and have found reference to a Songi family in Estonia (Baltic state that was swallowed up by Russia for a time). My sister Janell has said in the past that the Ambassadors usually brought their staff’s with them. This would make Joseph Russian and the Estonia find backs that up. Plus, it’s never been proven that Joseph was born in Lake Como, just that he came from Lake Como, Italy as a “political exile”.
There are references that he made trips back and forth “to the continent” and I’m not sure if this is Italy or France. But one thing I did find is Joseph was alive in June of 1833, not dead of Cholera like previously believed. Apparently as you’ll see below, Jos. Sr. took out a paid advertisement in the form of a “letter to the editor” to try and rid himself of his wife and the 7 sterling per week he was ordered to pay…
The Times (London, Middlesex, England)
Saturday, June 22nd, 1833
(Advertisement)
To the Editor of the Times
Sir, – As a tradesman anxious to maintain his character among his numerous connexions, I have to request, as an act of justice, the privilege of inserting in your columns a few words in answer to a report of the proceedings at the police-office, Marlborough-street, in your paper of the 15th inst., a report which, if allowed to pass unexplained, is calculated to do me considerable injury.
I am there charged with deserting my wife and children, and refusing to pay the sum of 7s. per week for their maintenance.
In justice to myself, I most solemnly declare, that the female who assumed the character of Mrs. Songi is not my wife, nor has any legal claim upon me. Upwards of 24 years since I unfortunately contracted an intimacy with her, and have, until her conduct became highly improper, paid every attention to her wants and comforts, and treated her in every way as a wife. We have now been separated for more than eight years, at which time she voluntarily left me; and of her family (two sons) the eldest is with me as an assistant, and the youngest, who is now 18 years of age, I have, at considerable pains and expense, fully instructed in every department of the confectionary business, and enabled him to gain a respectable livelihood.
I would further beg to notice, that the complainant is stated to have produced a marriage certificate; such was not the fact, the document produced being a license for marriage, and which was obtained without my privity of consent. My only marriage took place in the Cathedral Church of Como, in Italy, in the year 1798, with the mother of my daughter Therese Songi, now with me; full proof of which I can at any time produce, both by documentary evidence and the testimony of many persons of the highest character, natives of this country, and Italy.
I have the honour to be, Sir, your very obedient servant,
269, Regent-street, June 19. JOSEPH SONGI
So what did I take from this. Well, quite a lot really. Looks like Joseph first consummated his relationship with Elizabeth around 1810. If Jos. Jr. came around then (Sr. isn’t claiming them above “her family”) he’d be born probably 1811/12 not 1816 like previously believed. John “who is now 18” would put his birthday around 1815 not 1817 like previously thought. Also, he doesn’t say anything about being born in Lake Como, just married there, in 1798, which means he would be 13 if born in 1785 like we thought. And if they had truly been separated for 8 years, Elizabeth probably moved into the Gt. Castle location earlier than 1833. I think he was paying support and when John came of age he didn’t want to shell it out anymore. The paid advertisement above prompted a tearry eyed rant to the local magistrates that was reported in the same Times just two days later.
The Times (London, Middlesex, England)
Monday, June 24th, 1833
Marlborough Street. – Mrs. Songi, wife of Mr. Joseph Songi, the confectioner in Regent Street, came on Saturday to this office in great distress of mind, to complain to the sitting magistrates that her husband had, under the colour of an advertisement, made use of the columns of The Times newspaper to add another to the many injuries she has already sustained from him, by public denial that she was his wife, – a falsehood which, if allowed to go uncontradicted, would have the effect of destroying her little business as a dressmaker, by which she supported herself and children, and would deprive her of the protection and countenance of those persons of consideration who were acquainted with her story and who commiserated her situation.
Mr. Dyer – If Mr. Songi has inserted anything injurious towards you, it has been paid for as an advertisement, as you will perceive from that word having been placed over his letter to the editor. I have read the letter, and every word it contains is directly opposed to the facts which have been proved at this office. The letter has given me great surprise, and I am quite at a loss to conceive how Mr. Songi could have brought his mind to write it. My opinion of his conduct is such that I will not trust myself to speak my sentiments of it.
Mrs. Songi – He says that he never was married to me. I have my certificate at this moment in my pocket.
Mr. Dyer – On a former occasion when you were here you proved incontestably that you were his wife. You produced your marriage certificate, and the clerk of St. James Church, who gave you away, came forward and immediately identified Mr. Songi as your husband.
Mr. Conant – I recollect the circumstances of the case perfectly. I never knew a marriage more distinctly proved.
Plank, the chief officer – Your worships will probably recollect that Mr. Songi said the certificate produced at that time was forged, and you then directed the case to stand over in order to procure the attendance of the clerk of St. James’s, who, when he came, instantly pointed out Mr. Songi, and proved the certificate to be genuine.
Mr. Dyer – Yes, and I said at the time that Mr. Songi’s denial was so extraordinary I was determined to have it fully investigated. The result was that the magistrates ascertained your story to be true, and an order was made for Mr. Songi to allow you 7s. per week for your maintenance. When Mr. Songi was here a few days ago for assaulting you, I complimented him upon what I considered to be symptoms of a better feeling on his part, because he abstained from a denial of facts which I have no hesitation in saying have been fully borne out by evidence.
Mrs. Songi – It is cruel on his part to insert such a letter. It will ruin my little business, for no one will now admit me into their house, unless my character is cleared from this aspersion. This Therese Songi, whom he calls his “daughter” in the letter, has been the cause of all my unhappiness. When my husband first brought her from the continent, he introduced her into the house as his “niece” but I soon discovered this to be false, and this connexion has led to my being deprived of a home. This young woman has embittered the mind of my husband against his wife and children.
Mr. Dyer – We are perfectly ready to bear testimony, should it be needed, to your general good character and propriety of conduct, and I feel quite assured that the course pursued by Mr. Songi to injure you will have quite another effect.
Mr. Conant – You have produced to us excellent testimonials of character, and I have no objection to say that I have known you many years, and can bear testimony to your unblemished character and conduct.
Mrs. Songi, who was in tears during the conversation, after expressing her gratitude to the magistrates, quitted the office.
Alright, I didn’t get any dates out of this except that maybe the 15th is when Joseph assaulted Elizabeth. I’m trying to find the report in the Times that prompted Joseph to pay for his story on the 22nd. What I did get is Jos. Sr. brought back a little filly from the “continent” and tried to pass her off as his “niece” to his family. The story changed to “daughter” when all the ugliness started. I haven’t found proof of a marriage that Elizabeth had in hand when she went before the Magistrates. Nor have I found birth/death information on Joseph Sr. I’ll keep searching and when I find something, I’ll report it back to everyone here.